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I have a proposal for Asian American Healthcare Reform Activists. One that will fry your brains. You might consider it ethically-challenged (It is). You may reject it outright (Do it, but read beforehand).
Here's my advice: when you're in a healthcare debate with a non-APA conservative just pretend you're Japanese.
Let's start with the premise. Conservatives love to vilify Canada's single-payer "socialized" healthcare system. Their primary claims are that A) Canadians suffer through lengthy wait times and that B) people cross the border to America in order to get better access to healthcare technology. Progressives like yourself already know that this is an application of classic Rovian tactics perfected in the previous administration. We all know that single-payer healthcare systems are actually quite good. Virtually all Canadians are covered under the various Canadian provincial government health insurances. So Rove et al. are going out full force to knock down what they see is the strongest example of Government-run healthcare by taking a miniscule imperfection (wait times can be lengthy for Ontario patients) and blowing it up large and loud enough to demolish a favorite progressive talking point.
But, throw another country or two into the mix and suddenly the equation becomes skewed. The fact is that all modern industrialized nations have some form of universal healthcare aside from the unfortunate exception of United States. The result? We have the most expensive healthcare with nothing impressive to show for.
The thing is, there are countries with better healthcare than Canada or the United States. One particular country stands out amongst all the others: it's Japan. And what's even better, Obama's model will more closely resemble something like Japan than that of Canada or the UK. So let's talk about Japan.
In 2000, the World Health Organization released a global ranking of the world's healthcare systems. Our red, white, and blue came in at a lovely Number 37. Canada came in at Number 30 (No one is claiming that it's perfect). Japan came in at Number 10. But, when you look at things like Health Performance Ranking, America is all the way down to No. 70 while Japan hovers around the No. 10 range. What's really devastating, however, is that the United States ranks No. 2 in healthcare expenditures (Japan is at No. 39). With the exception of No. 1 Marshall Islands, Americans pay too much and gain too little healthcare in return. The numbers haven't been updated so I imagine that the same numbers would look worse for Americans today.
*Even the conservative CATO institute loves Japan
How does it work in Japan? In the strictest terminology, Japan does not employ a single-payer healthcare system. In fact, Japan has a multi-payer system where the citizens, employers, and the Japanese government all share the costs of healthcare. Private insurance companies are alive and do very well in Japan.
In Japan, like in Obama's proposed plan, employers are mandated to provide coverage. Premiums are set to about 8% of an employee's salary regardless of the amount be it US 30,000 or US 150,000 (Average Income in Japan is US 30,000). The employer pitches in an equal amount. The same goes for seniors and the self-employed, except the government picks up the tab in place of the employer much like in our Medicare program (which, incidentally, is a single-payer system).
The intent of the plans is to cover all grounds of basic healthcare and preventative medicine. And when co-pay amounts are predictable (the maximum a Japanese citizen pays for an operation/procedure is 10% ~ 30% in some cases), the Japanese go get medical check ups much more frequently than Americans. Not only is the co-pay predictable, the price of your total operation/procedure is equally predictable as those prices are set by the Japanese Ministry of Health. Guess what happens then? Life expectancy shoots up to No. 1 in the world.
If the Japanese feel like their healthcare package isn't robust enough with their public option, they can supplement their insurance by purchasing private insurance plans that are more specialized and tailored to their specific needs. However, unlike in the United States, Japanese insurance companies are heavily regulated in a way that it makes it illegal for them to charge for basic healthcare, it is illegal for them to deny services based on a pre-existing condition, and it is illegal for them to deny services based on arbitrary reasons like oh, say an insurance company employee inputting a wrong weight number.
The best part of the deal is that the Japanese can go to any doctor they want, when they want (reasonably-speaking), and know exactly how much they're going to pay. In addition, they can go see any specialist they want without getting a prior referral from an primary care physician. In other words, Japanese patients actually have a choice on which doctor they want to go to.
There are down sides to Japanese healthcare as well. Let's admit it. No plan is perfect. One that stands out is that doctors can only earn a middle-class salary of US 120~150,000. Therefore, there are tendencies for ethically-questionable Japanese doctors to collect the maximum amount of money per patient by over-seeing patients or having patients go through a whole host of unnecessary tests and procedures. Ethically-challenged Japanese doctors also tend to over-prescribe pharmaceuticals to bilk more yen from their patients. Although, none of these sound particularly out of the norm for us Americans, I would think.
Going back to conservative taking point A), waiting times also apply, but that's not a fault of the system, rather that's just a fact of life. The United States is no different. But! In terms of conservative talking point B) lack of technology, we're talking Japan here. Japan has more MRI Scanners per capita than any other nation in the world.
Japan doesn't have the best healthcare in the world. According to the WHO, France does. But, compared to the US and Canada, Japan does a pretty damn amazing job of taking care of the healthcare needs of its citizens. All I'm saying is that when debating your conservative friends on healthcare, don't point out the Canadian healthcare system and be met with RNC-prepared talking points. Rather, point out the benefits of Japan's healthcare and comment on how similar Obama's proposed system is. I bet that's what Karl Rove is afraid of.
Also send them this link to a PBS documentary that does a very good job at covering the various socialized healthcare systems of the civilized new world.
Give it a try and let me know how it goes in the comments section.
(Just my 2 cents though, I think Japan's healthcare delivery system is not good enough for America. The best way to go is all out socialism and implement a National Single-Payer System. But, we can talk about that another day.)
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My Japanese grandmother (who lived in Japan her whole life) passed away last year. In the last months of her life, I spent as much time as I could with her in her tiny, rural hometown in Japan. She received wonderful home care from her doctors and nurses. A doctor, nurse or social worker visited her every other day, in the comfort of her own home. She had an oxygen machine delivered to her home, and she had the option of a lunch meal delivered as well. (She chose not to go with this service, cooking herself meals.) The cost of all this? Less than $100 per month. Someone in her situation - not very wealthy, living alone, and in a rural area - would have had a very different experience in the last months of her life if she were living here.
Compared to the experiences of my friend Kelly, who at 29 has cancer, whose family worries every day about going bankrupt, who cannot get married to her long term boyfriend (because he would then be saddled with her debt and she wouldn't be eligible for certain kinds of care), who fights day in and day out to keep her life-saving coverage - to see this is heartbreaking. There must be a more humane way to treat people with serious illnesses in this country.
Thanks for sharing your stories. My Japanese grandmother on my mother's side got hit by a construction truck a year or two ago. She's currently in a residential care facility where she will probably finish the rest of her life in a wheel chair... My parents have told me the place is beautiful and she's being well taken care of.
I'm embarrassed to acknowledge that I'm not close enough to my grandmother to ask her myself, but I'm pretty sure her care is heavily subsidized by their Citizens Health Insurance (CHI) plan.
The story is much more miserable here. America needs to invest heavier in Medicare and we need to take care of our seniors better...
As to your friend, I hope things turn for the better.. Heartbreaking ;(
Japan does not have "socialized medicine" or socialism. What Japan and other industrialized nations like Canada, the UK, or France have is a form of State Capitalism.
The USA is such a right wing nation that anything that even slightly deviates from its privatized free market system is consider "socialism."
Don't worry. Socialism is not in the cards--not even close.
The Obama regime's health care "reform" plan will largely continue America's corporatist system.
Top Ten Ways To Tell Your President & His Party Aren't Fighting For Health Care For Everybody
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/top-ten-ways-tell-your-president-his-party-arent-fighting-health-care-everybody
Thanks to everyone for following us with Health Care Reform Week. We'll have a few more posts on health care this week, but make sure to contact your member of Congress to tell them you support the public option.
With all due respect, I don't think you understand what terms like "socialism," Marxist, or for that matter "capitalism" mean if you believe that many institutions in the USA are "socialist" or that Canada and other Western nations practice a form of "socialism."
If these Western nations were socialist, WHY DIDN'T THEY SUPPORT THE SOVIET UNION and other socialist nations like China, Vietnam, Cuba, North Korea during the Cold War?
These Western nations are an example of state capitalism--and in particular, the Capitalist welfare state in the USA. The USA under FDR was another example of this sort of Capitalist welfare state. They are not socialist.
The reason why the Obama Regime and Democrats will not bring progressive health care reform is because they all represent the interests of the insurance industry, big pharma, and the medical complex--just like the Republicans.
Nationalism Socialism is much more likely to be in the cards for America.
Thanks to everyone for following us with Health Care Reform Week. We'll have a few more posts on health care this week, but make sure to contact your member of Congress to tell them you support the public option.
lol Obama Healthcare plan? First Obama wants to government run healthcare similair to that of Canada or Britian. Second Obama didnt even read the plan. To argue that Obama doesnt want to elimate private insurers is just stupid if you look at takes at his run for the senate he even says it very cleary. Obama was friends with Bill Ayers, Has ties to radical organizations like ACORN which want to destroy capitolism (Theres video evidence of statement by ACORN's former leader). Also the Czars in the white house some are communist and socialists. Some where even friends with Obama back in the College days. The stimilous bill Obama passed has failed also Obama already in a way broke his promise of not raising taxes by raising the tax on ciggerates. Which studdies shows that it would effect middle income families. Majority of Americans like there healthcare which is about 57% and only 24% dont like there healthcare and most people who dont have healthcare insurance can get it from Medicare or Medicade but choose not to. Also illegal immigrants are included in the number for the about 40million uninsured since around 20million can get insurance threw medicare or medicade and theres about 8-10million illegal which shouldnt be included leaves around 10million people who need it. Also Obama healthcare plan taxes ur provider so small bussinesses would drop ur insurance because it would cost to much for the company and you would get dragged into the government healthcare program.
when i say illegal meaning illegal immigrants also sorry for any spelling mistakes
I lived in Japan for 13 years and Australia for 3 1/2. Both had better health care systems at a faction of the cost. In Japan, your child is covered 100% through the age of six. Also, basic vision and dental are covered. Every year, you go to free health checkups. Starting at 45, you get an extensive checkup every five years. There is a co-pay that ranges from 10 to 30% depending on the plan. However, since the fees are a fraction of what the U.S. charges, it is very affordable.
I really miss national health!
Japan has one of the Highest Suicide rate in the world. Japan healthcare gives screening examinations for particular diseases not all. Also there was a story about a women who was in her 70s who was denided over 40 for times for treatment for her breathing problems. There has bin major problems in the system with massive paperwork, Abuse of medications and also long assembly lines for patients without appointments. One more thing in a govenerment survey in 2007 over 14,000 emergency patients where rejected several times by Japease Hospitals before getting treatment. So there you have it.
First thanks for the feedback David Jones!
And KMA, you're right. The Japanese Healthcare System is not a perfect solution.
It's also sad that the Japanese have a high suicide rate. The Japanese should really invest in mental care.
There's also a story about a 70-year old man who fell and dispatchers had been refused to transfer the man to a hospital 14 different times.
Senior care in hospitals is a big problem for the Japanese as the population ages and, due to negative population growth, not enough beds and people to take care of them.
The Japanese government have taken steps to study the problem and is looking to improve this by either looking at A) more house visits or B) readily available senior care centers.
Quite frankly all the problems you mention are because the Japanese have socialized health insurance and not socialized healthcare. There's not enough supply to meet the demand of healthcare because there's not enough economic incentive to do so (actually more space than anything). Healthcare in Japan is privatized, meaning private doctors and private hospitals.
Let me address some of your earlier concerns:
Canada and UK have different healthcare plans. Canada has socialized insurance, much like Medicaid. The UK has socialized healthcare, much like our VA system and Medicare.
I agree with you that Obama doesn't believe in a competitive public option vs insurance companies. He campaigned on single-payer healthcare. He is compromising with the Conservative Democratic Leadership and the Radical Right.
ACORN probably has a lot of socialists. I'm a socialist. Our country was founded on liberal socialist principles. I have nothing to be afraid of. Quite frankly, I'm more afraid of unchecked capitalism as that leads to fascism, which is worth being afraid of.
A good number of those Czars that you speak of are in their positions because of bi-partisan congressional approval. Again, I am not afraid of them.
Obama did not raise taxes on cigarettes. I am a heavy smoker. I have not seen any increase in my cigarette bill. Raise that concern to me when it does. If you don't want taxes affecting middle class families, then join me in advocating for a 90+% tax rate on the sociopathic rich like how Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower did during his presidency. We can eliminate taxes for the working poor and incredibly lower taxes for the working middle class.
Unfortunately, this has nothing to do with the stimulus bill. Most of the money has not been distributed into the economy yet. It would be unwise to judge the stimulus bill at this point. I agree with you though that it wasn't a perfect bill.
Polling shows that 80% of Americans want Healthcare reform.
Thank you for bringing up Medicare and Medicaid, both socialist insurance programs that senior citizens and the underserved are very happy with.
Undocumented immigrants should have access to healthcare. They pay their fair share of taxes.
The McCain plan to tax corporate healthcare benefits have been dropped from the current house bill. This is great news.
KMA, I'm pleasantly surprised! You're very informed about the healthcare debate from the radical right wing perspective, but you seem to be very concerned with taxation on the middle class and American small businesses!
Now, can you explain to me why the current American Pay or Die Healthcare is better than either Canada, UK, or Japan?
Every working hour, roughly 625 American families go through a medical bankruptcy, insurance or no insurance.
The average cost for treatment of cancer can range from $20 - 40,000 a year if you have lung cancer. If your mother has cancer for 10 years...in all likeliness, you're bankrupt.
Want to switch to a better Pay or Die Health Provider? Oh, no. I'm sorry. They don't take pre-existing conditions.
Healthcare is not something you can joke around with. Please, take it seriously, KMA. I beg you.
I love the one about Japan having the highest suicide rate. I'm totally sure it's because of their national health insurance program and not because of the complex interplay of cultural, historical, and economic factors such as the role of suicide in the feudal Japanese ethos and Japan's decade-plus recession.
Did you know that average global temperatures have increased in every year that the number of pirates in the world has decreased? It's true; look it up. So there you have it.
President Obama signed a law early in his administration to raise taxes from 39 cents to $1.01 per pack of cigarettes and from 19.5 cents to 50 cents per pound for chewing tobacco. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/29/single-largest-cigarette-tax-hike-goes-effect-wednesday/
"Please, take it seriously, KMA. I beg you." - Koala to say to me that upsets me. Something that can change america greaty must always be taken seriously.
No one doudts that American Healthcare needs reform but majority of people dont want this kind of reform that Obama and others are dishing out. Thats why his poll numbers are dropping. taxes should be cut for all not just one class of people. Also to say im influance by the radical right wing is just wrong. Most americans want to better there life and the country. You seem to dislike me by saying stuff about me. Someof the Czars are radicals like the Green Czar who wants to put sterlits into our drinking water to stop us from reproducing. Other Czars are similair. TownHalls are proof that americans dont want this kind of Healthcare reform. To call them angry mobs and say the right wings are setting all this up is alot of BS. Very small amout is Manufactor and also the LEft Wing manifoctory alot of movements and even now with Acorn and sending bussed from people not even in the same county to a TownHall to try to support it better to stay in ur own townhall then random people from a diffrent county. Also a Black republican was attacked by a left wingers while passing out flyers to people.
Ah, my sincerest apologies, KMA. Never even realized it.
Your sentiments are not well taken. Your research is sloppy and quite frankly racist. That is unacceptable.
President Obama's polling is dropping at the high 50s, but Republicans in Congress have a polling rate of 10% and dropping even more. Inaction and frustration with inaction is what's dropping the poll numbers.
Why should taxes be cut at all?
I agree with you that most americans want to better their life and country. Your policies are of those espoused by the top few Americans who only care for the former.
I don't dislike you. I abhor your desire to spread misinformation and radical right wing talking points. Case in point, your irrational fear of "Czars"--a concept popularized by none other than the original "domestic policy Czar" Karl Rove.
Disruption in town halls only serve as reminders of lingering racism, of those who do not see President Obama as a legitimate president because of his ethnicity, and of those who are grossly misinformed by the corporatist right wing fear machine. (See American's Health Insurance Plans and Freedom Works)
You must be talking about Kenneth Gladney. Gladney was injured in a brawl at a town hall meeting. Gladney is now accepting donations for his health care costs because he has no health insurance. The irony is that Gladney would be covered under the proposed public option and would have to suffer the pain hundreds of millions of Americans face everyday in our inadequate pay-or-die healthcare system.
Some apoligy calling me a racest and saying I have radical right wing talking points and my research is sloppy. I side with no party currently and may be forming my own political party And if your talking about the birthers i dont side with them crazy people but you forget when Obama first ran for President 38% of Democrats did not believe he was born in the united states while only 24% of republicans believed he wasnt born in the united states. Example would be former Deputy Attorny of PA philip j. berg and Democrat who didnt believe Obama was a USA Citizian. Frankly I would like for an apoligy but seems like I wont be getting a REAL APOLIGY.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Video-proof-Obama-wants-a-single-payer-system-52699182.html
http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-in-03-id-like-to-see-a-single-payer-health-care-plan/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534606,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520326,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32464936/ns/politics-white_house/
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/17/obama.polls/
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-07-20-obama-poll-economy_N.htm
No, I'm pleased that I have offended you. Please kindly accept my most gracious apologies.
Will you now responsibly address your veiled hints of racism by retracting your previous unwarranted statements on undocumented immigrants and ACORN?
Let me also know what your political philosophies are because they're firmly in line with the radical right wing. You make use of RNC talking points very well. How are you different?
Also can I take it by your links that you support an expansion of single-payer healthcare in the United States?
check this http://www.startribune.com/templates/Print_This_Story?sid=36072864
No I will not retract my statement on AC ORN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nR7Rla2KFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfwgq8Ms_h4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O373c7Up4KQ&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O373c7Up4KQ&NR=1
Sadly I had to Look up RNC becuase didn't know what it was. Republican National Committee (RNC)
I dont want a single payer system. If the governement cant run Medicad, Medicare correctly and even a Cash for Clunkers program which Germany had done and could of fixed potiotal problems with it by using germany as an example of what to do and not to do and now wants to run our Healthcare system. The Post Officer is even going in dedt.
No one should ever be pleased by offending another.
Ah, but I am pleased. It means that you're not a racist, so naturally, I expect you to denounce the veiled racism like those espoused by your hero Glenn Beck. As such, you will retract your statement on ACORN, a non-profit villanized by the radical right for effectively promoting progressive policies that better the lives of over 95% of working Americans in this country.
The federal government runs Medicare and state governments run Medicaid well. The VA system is the highest rated medical system in the United States. The Cash for Clunkers Program was a smashing success. It was so popular that Congress voted to provide it even more funding.
The US Government has a responsibility to maintain an affordable and accessible universal post office by the US Constitution. Going into debt should not be an issue since, technically, the USPS should not be making a profit as a quasi-government entity.
Tell me this, KMA. We collectively pay for fire protection services here in America in order to protect our houses. If our bodies are more important than our houses, then shouldn't we, as a society, collectively pay for healthcare in America?
First Glenn Beck aint my hero. Second medicare and medicad has a problem do to the vast amount of cash neeeded and the massive missuse of money. Cash for clunkers was a failer do to the fact that a good amout of cars supose to be destroyed are back on the road and missuse of money. 1billion was supose to last till november but lasted 1week. Also may cause a surplus in cars and is ruining non profit organizations who sell those cars for orphanages or our troops. ACORN gets government funding also pay people to get signatures. Also the money people get from the government for the car comes from every ones pocket.
http://www.kff.org/insurance/chcm090904nr.cfm
No one should ever go between a person and there doctor nor should the government have records of people's health statis.
I wasn't aware that imperfect meant failure. I kindly suggest you go to non-fringe right wing media to gather information about non-profits committed to getting more people to vote.
Let's say that you're right, KMA. You're entirely correct in all your accusations.
In your world, how and how much will someone pay for cancer treatment?
Re: low cost for health care per person in Japan. Facts are stubborn things: Each year the Japanese Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare publishes the nation... See More’s estimated healthcare expenditure, and WHO numbers are based on this self-report. But since the range of items included in this expenditure is limited to the costs of treating injuries and illnesses, the figure is essentially an estimate only of the healthcare expenses covered by public insurance. The costs associated with normal pregnancies and births; health checkups, vaccinations, and other procedures aimed at maintaining and promoting health; and prosthetics for people missing limbs, eyes, or other body parts are not included in the calculation. The same goes for the costs borne by patients for items not fully covered by health insurance, such as room fees during hospitalization and dental fees. While the estimate may be adequate as an explanation of the range of activities under the jurisdiction of the MHLW, it is wholly inadequate for gaining a clear understanding of the use of healthcare services by Japanese citizens.
Oh, and Japan doesn't include the capital costs of hospitals, and transfers from the government general revenues account.
PLUS: America's not 37th as shown from the stale cited decade-old WHO report.
Fact? If you remove the homicide rate and accidental death rate from MVA’s from Spike's stale cited report statistic, citizens of the US have a longer life expectancy than ANY other country on earth. Facts are stubborn things.
More reason to reject the "37th place" statistic: http://smartgirlnation.com/2009/06/popular-ranking-unfairly-misrepresents-the-us-health-care-system/
TO: Luckless Pedestrian:
RE: Facts are stubborn things.
RE: RE: low costs for healthcare per person in Japan.
Analysis: Poster makes no point. Poster attempts poor example of Ad Hominem argument.
RE: RE: America's not 37th.
Analysis: Poster attempts misdirection by reciting a popular conservative argument propagated by Betsy McCaughey and originating from a University of Iowa Powerpoint Presentation. (See Jon Stewart Interview August 20, 2009). Conclusions on global life and death statistics are measured by amenable mortality, which places the United States as last in 19 industrialized countries.
Conclusion: Poster is displaying examples of faith to conservative ideology and not of fact.
Speculation: Poster is a paid blogger assigned by the RNC to shill for insurance companies opposed to health insurance reform.
Here is what you REALLY get! A bankrupt government! Japan's government is going bankrupt, not far behind are the other socialist-leaning European countries that liberals love to fawn over!
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100001459/dollar-hegemony-for-another-century/
This is an interesting topic. "Dose of Reality's" main point was that, pretty much all other industrialized countries with more or less universal health care were failing...Seriously, you do realize your American system is failing too right? No plan is 100% perfect. No political leader is perfect. Since you're so concerned about the liberals Mr.Conservative, I'd like to see you do a better job.
As well as "KMA's" citings that he got all from what seemed to be Fox News. There have been a few independent documentaries that point out that Fox News only seems to promote RIGHT-WINGED thinking. So having that as your source further proves "Koala's" assessment of your character. As often racists individuals are always quick to point at that they "ARE/AM NOT RACIST!"
Another good bit was that "KMA" complained about Obama taxing cigarettes. I mean seriously CIGARETTES?! If you are going to continue to feed an addiction that you know is detrimental to your health and will ultimately kill you, and you have the audacity to complain about the tax being raised on it. Where as if you quit you will less likely have to go through all the good stuff that cancer brings, and when that's all taken care of, having to foot the bill. Further proves your stupidity, and you should be heavily taxed for being by choice stupid.
Last but not least we can't forget "Luckless Pedestrian's" pathetic attempt to prove that US citizens have the highest life expectancy than any other country. Um...Where are you getting these facts? The US is filled with a bunch of glutenous, fat fucks. They ranked at 50th place out of 191 countries. Major point being that Japan came in at 3rd place, as well as a good handful those other socialist-leaning European countries still ranked well above America. But then again searching this in Wikipedia-the online encyclopedia, which is consistently up to date, seems a little to hard for you.
Wow. You liberals are just as delusional, clueless, and completely inane as all the conservatives say you are. Thanks for proving their arguments against you guys. I feel better now.
(Completely laughing at the ages old liberal trick of calling any dissenters racists. It takes one to know one guys!)
"Takes one to know one?" Talk about a "completely inane" comment.
It would be more helpful to hear what has been posted by a "liberal" that you consider "delusional, clueless" etc. rather than drop in to insult with a very broad brush ever single "liberal". If you can do so (and avoid the mean-spirited and hateful language), we might be able to actually have a conversation rather than a bunch of monologues going on all at once.
I'm an American who was diagnosed with colon cancer last November. I had half my colon removed, received a mucous fistula and now crap in a plastic bag on my belly.
I later found out that they believed I have had this cancer for about five years. I am convinced that even though I had surgery to remove kidney stones about four years ago, my doctor could have easily run tests at that time that could have caught the cancer early and I would not have had my belly ripped open and given five years to live, but a "Caring" insurance executive decided those tests would have been cost prohibitive.
If there is a god, then I'll be waiting for those execs at the pearly gates, putting my foot up their asses before they get to a "warmer" final resting place.
I love how righties twist facts, and eventually flat out lie to make their point.
I doubt Georgie Porgie read anything more complex than "The Little Engine That Could."
If The Canadian system was so bad, why did Sister Sarah and her family take advantage of it?
If righties don't like something, they call it Socialism (Code for Communism) and put Obama's name in front of it. ("Obamacare" was NOT written by Obama and did have republicans contributing to it.)
"Death Panels?" That is as ridiculous as forcing a duly elected Commander In Chief to produce a birth certificate. I don't recall a white president ever forced to do the same thing, and even that wasn't enough for these dittoheads.
And after eight years of massive incompetence and corruption, totally ignored by these dittoheads, their back on the "Impeachment" horse.
Every time Clinton scratched his ass, a special prosecutor was called for and we had "ASSGATE," and I see they are getting out the pitcheforks again!
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